Joe Rogan has been in the news a lot recently, accused of spreading misinformation – when many of the things he said in the past that were once questionable have since been verified and even accepted by mainstream sources. But Rogan is also in tune with some of our favorite topics like pole shifts and ancient civilizations – and he recently had Randall Carlson on his podcast for several hours of discussion and at one point asked Randall if he had an opinion on the most likely location of Atlantis. Carlson made eight two-hour videos on this subject years ago, but attempted to give a brief argument in favor of the Azores Plateau (the flat but shallowly submerged region near the Azores, west of Spain and Portugal) as the most likely location for Plato’s Atlantis.
Plato is Western Civilization’s source for information on Atlantis, and he said it was a great maritime civilization on a large island in the world ocean beyond the Pillars of Hercules – which was destroyed by horrific earthquakes and submerged under the sea around 9,600 B.C. (This fits well with other evidence suggesting Earth’s last catastrophic pole shift happened approximately 12,000 years ago.)
In the short video above Carlson notes that much evidence on such topics is suppressed or ignored, but he cites an old article for evidence that the Azores area was above sea level over 12,000 years ago: “The Atlantis, Meteor, and Great Cruiser seamounts rise from a broad ridge or plateau” centered roughly 34 degrees North and 30 degrees West. The Atlantis seamount has a flat bedrock summit about 180 fathoms deep covered in sand and cobblestone sized limestone rocks, and “cobbles gave an apparent radiocarbon age of 12,000 years +/- 900. The state of lithification of the limestone suggest that it may have been lithified under subaerial conditions and that the seamount may have been an island within the last 12,000 years.” (Heezen, Bruce. et al. “Flat-Topped Atlantis, Cruiser, and Great Meteor Seamounts.” Geological Society of America Bulletin, December 1954, vol. 65, p. 1261 – as shown in podcast video “Randall Carlson’s Take on Atlantis” February 5, 2022 – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdqX09zZNf8)
This alone does not prove there is a recurring cycle of pole shifts, but there is plenty of other evidence that previous civilizations have been reduced to myth and legend by such events. Unfortunately, that evidence suggests the next pole shift is expected in the first half of the 21st century and will probably do the same to us.
Taking a look at Azores today, it is clear that Atlantis did not a great job preserving its own civilizations, the same for Lemuria (remnants of which is probably Madagascar), and Mu (remnants of which might be Oceania). If those ancient civilizations were more advanced than we, can we hope to fare better…?
Whatever tech they had preserved, it was extravagantly used to build some Neolithic circles, pyramides and then broke down. It seems they were religious but not prudent people or something like that…
Vampirism may be a survival strategy, or young blood rejuvenate. Could it be a factor behind the current blood crisis? Hopefully underground communities won’t be optimized in order to procure a young blood as a side consideration, because it is truly the therapy for the elect. Anyway, be careful if you are under 30…
“One enormous obstacle for hopes of plasma therapy is the limited supply. In a rough extrapolation from the mouse studies, Nikolich estimates that the globe’s entire plasma supply would be sufficient for only half a million of the world’s 15 million Alzheimer’s patients. “That means big questions about who gets treatment and who does not,” he said.”
And this has what to do with Rogan and Carlson discussing Atlantis and pole shifts?
Taking into account how old is blood obsession in our history, bloody sacrifices being staple of almost every religious cult, the failure of pharaoh Ekhnaton in introducing bloodless cult, the fact that ancient Egypt was supposedly remnant of Atlantis, blood may have been problem in Atlantis too.
BTW, you previously claimed that Atlantis was where Richat structure is. Did you change your mind?
When I first saw your comment saying I “previously claimed that Atlantis was where Richat structure is” I wondered why you would say that. But looking back at my own writing, you’re right – in that I was far too supportive of the possibility. I’m even less willing to consider the Richat Structure at a possible location of Atlantis now. I think it is far more likely that we will find evidence of Atlantis on the Bolivian Altiplano, or in Antarctica, or under the surface of the Atlantic Ocean or Caribbean – than at the Richat Structure.
I’m still leaning toward Richat given proximity to Atlas mountains, Rh-ve Berbers & Basques, and Atlantis/Atlantic/Atlas.
But Zod, Basques are on the northern coast of Spain, not the south one, and that makes sense because only north coast of Spain is the Atlantic coast. You need a place which is more or less in equal distance from Africa and Europe, so central Atlantic would do. In fact, it is easy to see both Western Europe and Western Africa coasts as the places where Atlantis survivors would land in the first place.
JtA, being in the right place at the right time for a viable community of ex-Atlanteans means being at altitude, i.e. Atlas mountains, or Pyrenean mountains.
Not sure. It is said the last pole shift was a water event, whereas the next one is to be a fire event. Since the highest peaks of Atlas and Pyrenees are lower than Ararat, were they really a perfect hideout?
Also, I have some doubts whether Berbers are ‘viable community of ex-Atlanteans’, giving their lost all its tech and capabilities. In other words, we should not fetishize Rh- factor.
Don’t forget that although global climate doesn’t change, there is a radical change of climate for most points on Earth (apart from the two hinge points of the crustal displacement). Also, 12,000 years is a pretty long time – in which for many surviving ‘tribes’ to migrate away from their temporary havens – in search of more fertile/hospitable land. There will also be the ‘once bitten, twice shy’ tendency to prefer mountainous regions.
As for the ekpyrosis/kataklysmos issue, it’s probable that it’s more a case of different places experiencing different phenomena. Not every part of the Earth’s surface will be inundated by mega-tsunami. Supersonic winds may be pyrothermal as well as cryothermal. During Earth’s magnetospheric collapse there may be incursion of plasma – from coincidental CMEs. But, again, with the vast timescale it’s difficult to expect good records of the nature of each of our preceding cataclysms given their 12,000 year periodicity. Otherwise, the only obvious cosmic difference between the two cataclysms is the distance of The Sun’s dual, i.e. 3kAu vs 1kAU.